tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post708453442136982559..comments2023-06-15T03:30:17.871-06:00Comments on Musings of a Highly Trained Monkey: Beating a Dead HorseMonkeyGirlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05735317323208263354noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-36191617955698790682008-06-12T12:04:00.000-06:002008-06-12T12:04:00.000-06:00OK...I'm late to this but had to throw in my 2 cen...OK...I'm late to this but had to throw in my 2 cents. I've noticed in my years and years of typing medical reports that there are several similarities amongst them, chief being obesity and unemployment, therefore I can only conclude that most, and I say MOST not ALL, fibromyalgics are fat and lazy! Get off your fat ass, take a walk, lay off the junk food and GET A JOB and you'll be amazed how quickly you'll feel better. <BR/><BR/>I feel so much better having said that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-68729171530509289162008-06-02T08:49:00.000-06:002008-06-02T08:49:00.000-06:00And 100 years ago, you couldn't prove diabetes eit...And 100 years ago, you couldn't prove diabetes either. What is your point?<BR/>Is medical science really so advanced that we know everything about every disease?<BR/><BR/>I don't have fibromyalgia, but I have a related condition. One with a clear genetic trend, which 5 years ago no one believed to exist. Now it is known that it does. The same could well happen to fibromyalgia.<BR/><BR/>(the same anonymous who posted at 8.17)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-37815617153423136972008-06-02T08:36:00.000-06:002008-06-02T08:36:00.000-06:00Why do the Anonymi insist on comparing fibromyalgi...Why do the Anonymi insist on comparing fibromyalgia to diabetes?<BR/><BR/>It takes one drop of blood to prove that you are having a diabetic emergency. <BR/><BR/>You could use all of your blood and still never prove a fibromyalgia emergency. Because such a thing does not exist.<BR/><BR/>Stop comparing real diseases to fake ones.MonkeyGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05735317323208263354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-19447877259140835432008-06-02T08:17:00.000-06:002008-06-02T08:17:00.000-06:00I can understand that working in ER, the majority ...I can understand that working in ER, the majority of people who you see who claim to have fibromyalgia are drug seekers or hypochondriacs.<BR/><BR/>That's because the people who really do have fibromyalgia tend not to go to ER, but will be getting long term help instead of short term fixes.<BR/><BR/>Do you judge everyone with diabetes by the people who come in as a way to get out of jail?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-60934414037779305062008-06-01T16:20:00.000-06:002008-06-01T16:20:00.000-06:00@Babs: You said "in my 20 years as a nurse I have ...@Babs: You said "in my 20 years as a nurse I have yet to see anyone showing up in the ER screaming, cursing, and threatening staff for a dose of Prolixin or Seroquel."<BR/><BR/>That's because they do that at the pharmacy. I had one patient nearly wreck my store because we couldn't find her Seroquel (because her home health aide had picked it up for her and forgot to tell her).Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667927130052597028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-47406461342813952242008-05-31T19:43:00.000-06:002008-05-31T19:43:00.000-06:00I found her opinion of us "scum" in the ERs kinda ...I found her opinion of us "scum" in the ERs kinda accurate:<BR/><BR/>"They are alchoholics in it only for the money. They also pass judgment on those of us who can't work and have Medicaid." <BR/><BR/>Yeah, so?Jeff Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04373451882997653147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-39088510255487009242008-05-29T16:41:00.000-06:002008-05-29T16:41:00.000-06:00Hannah, your mother would be in the minority. Ther...Hannah, your mother would be in the minority. There is a fine line between dependence and addiction but it is a <I>very</I> fine line and one all-too-easily crossed, often through no intention or fault of the new addict - but if one doesn't recognize his/her own change in pattern and that they're running out of their pain medicine too soon - and consistently - then the result <I>becomes</I> the fault of the new addict. There are very effective non-narcotic pain medications out there that will even ease <I>kidney stone pain</I>. People on long-term narcotics or benzodiazepines do have to be weaned off in order to prevent withdrawals, which can be very nasty. However, it does behoove a person to recognize the fact that they have become dependent or addicted and to recognize the effects this is having on their lives and those around them. When they start needing more to make it, there exists a problem...and they often don't seem to mind <I>driving </I>while taking this stuff either. The drug-seeking behavior is a highly common byproduct of that tolerance/addiction cycle and it is largely responsible for bankrupting the resources - both financial and human - of the modern day healthcare system, not to mention of the addict him/herself. It should be a clue to people when they start utilizing the ER for pain medication instead of maintaining a consistent relationship with their physician or pain management, and when they start finding themselves discharged from medical practices for this behavior, that there is A PROBLEM. <BR/><BR/>Your mother would certainly be an exception in her ability to recognize and control her situation, and I absolutely applaud her for that. But it's a <I>huge</I> gamble. Those working in the ER/ED for any length of time are in a unique position to see the folks who are unable to control it continually manifest more and more signs of addiction and watch them deteriorate right before their eyes...until one day somebody's running a code on a 35 year old woman who has graduated from Lorcet to Demerol to Dilaudid and already maxed out on Dilaudid dosing and who still can find no "relief". And it's all starting out with a chronic pain complaint and someone's being willing to write script after script after script and being too tired to argue and/or of being yelled at to stop it (ER docs included). <BR/><BR/>Does that make it right? No. Does the system tie their hands? Absolutely. <BR/><BR/>To answer your question regarding psychotropics, it is true that one can reach a point when a med regimen isn't working anymore, including (and especially) the spring/summer cycling in those with varying forms of psychoses or manic episodes. Surely medication regimens do have to be continuously re-evaluated under close medical scrutiny. But in my 20 years as a nurse I have yet to see anyone showing up in the ER screaming, cursing, and threatening staff for a dose of Prolixin or Seroquel. They show up screaming for Demerol or Dilaudid or Lorcets every day, sometimes several times in a day, sometimes several different ERs in the same day. <I>That's</I> the difference.Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16604068110452745043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-17705960394838806162008-05-29T15:37:00.000-06:002008-05-29T15:37:00.000-06:00From her profile, she is also a member of online s...From her profile, she is also a member of online support groups for chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pain, HPV, IBS, and obesity, just to name a few. <BR/><BR/>Funny, I always thought the obesity support group was the gym.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-43143922743769999192008-05-29T13:07:00.000-06:002008-05-29T13:07:00.000-06:00DAMMMMMMN, Monkey Girl, you have pissed off the Fi...DAMMMMMMN, Monkey Girl, you have pissed off the Fibros.....Next thing you know, you'll be saying Restless Leg Syndrome and Migraines are, gasp, a farce? I'm not sure if I'll even be able to rub your boobs anymore...the hate may be contagious and rub off on me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-89548462894180748312008-05-29T11:15:00.000-06:002008-05-29T11:15:00.000-06:00Who ever said that life should be "pain-free"? I a...Who ever said that life should be "pain-free"? I am in pain every single day, whether it be from a bad back or a pinched nerve in my neck or just the pounding headache that comes with child-rearing. (And I'm only 29.) I think people these days are just wimps. Think back to when the founders and builders of this nation were putting this land together with their bare hands. Do you think they started complaining that they were in too much pain and didn't have the proper drugs for it? I must have been born in the wrong era. Get over it. Suck it up. Pain means that you aren't dead yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-63024159158577973942008-05-29T02:11:00.000-06:002008-05-29T02:11:00.000-06:00She called you a bitch like it was a bad thing. La...She called you a bitch like it was a bad thing. Last time I checked having an professional opinion about something you deal with on a regular basis shouldn't make you the bad guy. Too often people who are discontent with their life are often envious of others who have got it together and try to bring them down to their level. She probably ran out of narcotics and is just bitter.The little tech that does...https://www.blogger.com/profile/18434851953413399285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-74920233998799788142008-05-28T22:50:00.000-06:002008-05-28T22:50:00.000-06:00Wow this person actually uses using "Magical Think...Wow this person actually uses using "Magical Thinking". Last time I saw a better example was in an 8 year old....Angry Nursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02109230113569411486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-11141508866658072722008-05-28T22:30:00.000-06:002008-05-28T22:30:00.000-06:00Well, pain killers are more fun than taking the ma...Well, pain killers are more fun than taking the magnesium supplement they need and getting some exercise.Lorelei Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07639663436142251951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-36441121414049783932008-05-28T20:26:00.000-06:002008-05-28T20:26:00.000-06:00MG:I guess all her spelling and grammar errors are...MG:<BR/><BR/>I guess all her spelling and grammar errors are due to being under the influence.<BR/><BR/>Too bad she's not driving...she might get pulled over.<BR/><BR/>I just have a hard time believing people with so many spelling mistakes.RehabNursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02695247141022093754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-77772615551996576432008-05-28T18:21:00.000-06:002008-05-28T18:21:00.000-06:00Hmmm. I didn't know I was alcoholic. And when did ...Hmmm. I didn't know I was alcoholic. And when did I land a job in the ER? I could use the money!Joeymomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08254601805621175842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-57987799172493884812008-05-28T15:50:00.000-06:002008-05-28T15:50:00.000-06:00AtYourCervix- Surely you recognize that you are th...AtYourCervix- <BR/><BR/>Surely you recognize that you are the exception, not the rule? <BR/><BR/>I don't think that everyone who has been handed a diagnosis of fibromyalgia is a drug seeker. I have never said that.<BR/><BR/>I think that anyone who manages chronic pain (whatever the cause) without narcotics is to be commended.MonkeyGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05735317323208263354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-41233606820561793032008-05-28T15:48:00.000-06:002008-05-28T15:48:00.000-06:00This woman obviously doesn't work in healthcare or...This woman obviously doesn't work in healthcare or deal with the generally ill public. She also might live in fairy land.<BR/>I do think that fibromyalgia is an actual disease. But I think too many people are "misdiagnosed" with it and many are actually drug seekers (or in her case a royal pain in the ass) I'm sorry, having a disease does not give you the excuse to be a ginormous BITCH.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593377383716715848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-61703677190012575322008-05-28T15:45:00.000-06:002008-05-28T15:45:00.000-06:00Adding this: my last big flare up was when my neck...Adding this: my last big flare up was when my neck and shoulder spasmed up last fall. I was in physical therapy for several weeks, and would break down and take a muscle relaxant at night (only!). PT was 3x a week, and I think I missed only 2 days of work - simply because I could not move my head or neck in any direction, and could not drive.AtYourCervixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08238926588944507794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-44808299018986811212008-05-28T15:43:00.000-06:002008-05-28T15:43:00.000-06:00I have said this before - not all people with fibr...I have said this before - not all people with fibromyalgia are drug seekers, or even use narcotics. I work almost fulltime as a nurse, exercise on a frequent basis, and take nothing stronger than naproxen for pain. Losing over 160 lbs from my very obese body also helped. However, I still am ultra-sensitive to touch. It literally hurts to have my child sit on my lap or hug me. Some days are worse than others. Some days I wake up to an awful flare-up with a muscle or muscle group totally spasmed up, requiring - not narcotics - physical therapy for at least 2-3 weeks. Rarely do I call in sick to work.AtYourCervixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08238926588944507794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-56593941618651254332008-05-28T13:50:00.000-06:002008-05-28T13:50:00.000-06:00I have a question for babs, et al:My mom has been ...I have a question for <B>babs, et al</B>:<BR/><BR/>My mom has been using Tylenol 3 every day for the last three years. She's allowed up to six per day and has been since she started. Her dose has not changed in those three years and her pain continues to be controlled. (With meds, plus various lifestyle changes that have made her unable to leave the house but she still functions independently.) Every time she begins to build a tolerance, she takes a "holiday" where she takes /no/ pain pills for several weeks. (And these "holidays" haven't increased in frequency/duration over the last three years, either.) Isn't this a fairly common way to manage possible addiction to narcs?<BR/><BR/>I'm struggling with the fact that I have developed a tolerance to my anti-depressant. The more I think about my situation, the more I see parallels between the use of pain medicine and the use of psychotropic medication. Nobody questions whether a schizophrenic or someone with bipolar disorder will need to be on meds forever. Is that really different from someone who needs pain killers to manage chronic pain? (Not that I endorse fibro or whatever, but there have to be some conditions out there that cause legitimate, chronic pain.) Us crazy folk' develop the same tolerances, the same insanely high dosing requirements and the same staggering concoction of meds that mirror the situation of many bona-fied narc addicts. Certainly, there mind-altering consequences to our drugging: some beneficial, some harmful, some even pleasurable. Is there really that big of a difference?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-46244820682699967672008-05-28T12:26:00.000-06:002008-05-28T12:26:00.000-06:00"They are alchoholics [sic] in it only for the mon..."They are alchoholics [sic] in it only for the money." <BR/>What money? And who's got the, uh, alchohol? <BR/>Interesting to see the blogger accusing other people of passing judgements.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-78942856498987723572008-05-28T12:07:00.000-06:002008-05-28T12:07:00.000-06:00her wish is granted everyday we are at work. Back ...her wish is granted everyday we are at work. Back aches, head aches, bad knees, bad feet. Muscle aches, I could go on and on. What about the back injuries from transfers? <BR/><BR/>She describes a day in the life of a heathcare professional.cwjsmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181974538391393490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-40880698706586444672008-05-28T11:55:00.000-06:002008-05-28T11:55:00.000-06:00Just keep on poking them! It makes fantastic readi...Just keep on poking them! It makes fantastic reading and besides they aren't the only ones with chronic pain!WardBunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15948429653432351400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-40603488224051788352008-05-28T11:54:00.000-06:002008-05-28T11:54:00.000-06:00It's amazing how being fibromialgian can leave tim...It's amazing how being fibromialgian can leave time not only for complaining about pain, drug seeking, but also for trolling and commenting!<BR/><BR/>MG, I love all your posts, but your fibro posts are the BEST.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038187245032263212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206950351545432700.post-87102544600035157862008-05-28T11:02:00.000-06:002008-05-28T11:02:00.000-06:00"we are very close to actually having ways to prov..."we are very close to actually having ways to prove once and for Fibromyalgia does exist." (sic).<BR/><BR/>Translation: We almost have some tests that might help us know that this fake disease might just exist!<BR/><BR/>Yeesh.GuitarGirlRNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465186558085758258noreply@blogger.com